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27 Lost Your Identity in Special Needs Motherhood? How to Find Your Spark Again with Aubree Felderhoff of Mom Intentional

Season 1 Episode 27

Do you feel so buried under the responsibilities of motherhood that you've lost touch with who you are?

Are you constantly dropping the ball and feeling like you can't keep up, no matter how hard you try?


Episode Overview

Aubree Felderhoff, SPARK coach for moms and host of the top-ranked Mom Intentional podcast, shares her incredible journey from a seven-year battle with mystery illness to helping overwhelmed moms rediscover their identity. After being bedridden and completely disconnected from herself, Aubree faced a hard truth: she had spent so long taking care of everyone else, she no longer recognized herself. Her story of surrender, miraculous healing, and rebuilding will encourage every mom who feels lost in the chaos of daily life.


About Our Guest

Aubree Felderhoff is a spark coach for moms, mother of three spirited boys, and host of the Mom Intentional podcast. Through her coaching, she helps overwhelmed moms move from burnout to purpose, so they can stop running on empty and finally feel alive again. As she says, "You're not broken, you're buried. Let's uncover you."


Scripture Foundation

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight." - Proverbs 3:5-6


Resources Mentioned

  • Time estimation strategy for to-do lists
  • Portable folder system for managing paperwork on-the-go
  • The SPARK method coaching program


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lyse Scheeler (00:00)
Welcome back everyone. Today with us we have Aubrey Felderhoff. She is a spark coach for moms, a mom of three spirited boys and the host of the top ranked Mom Intentional podcast. After a sudden and life altering illness left her bad-ridden and completely disconnected from who she was, Aubrey faced a hard truth. She had spent so long taking care of everyone else, she no longer recognized herself. That breaking point became the start of her mission. Now she helps overwhelmed moms who feel lost in motherhood,

rediscover their identity, rebuild their confidence, and create a life they love. Through coaching designed to help women reclaim their spark, Aubrey guides moms from burnout to purpose, so they can stop running on empty and finally feel alive again. As she often says, you're not broken, you're buried. Let's uncover you. Ugh, just like I said before we recorded, that just gives me goosebumps. Welcome, Aubrey. Thank you so much for being here.

Aubree Felderhoff (00:53)
Thank you, Elise! I'm super excited to be here and get to talk to you!

Elyse Scheeler (00:57)
Can you just talk us through, tell me a little bit more, maybe a little more details about what really brought you here? It sounds like you've really been through, a lot of, I don't want to call it trauma, but just some life events that have really truly changed you and brought you to this place.

Aubree Felderhoff (01:13)
Yeah, so I became a mom and shortly after I became a mom to my very first son, now 13 years ago, it's crazy, we moved into our dream house. I got pregnant with my second son and right after I had him, so it was really just a year later, I got really, really sick. And we at first did just the standard blood test and doctors and trying to figure out what was wrong. Nobody could come up with an answer and so.

That started my journey of seven years, 31 doctors all over the country, trying to find out what was happening. And I had symptoms across the board. Every system in my body was affected with this quote unquote mystery illness that nobody could figure out. And I just continued to get sicker and weaker. I also had a third son in the middle of that seven year hiatus, but.

In the end, we eventually figured out what was happening and we had to move and basically start from scratch, start our life from scratch. And it was in the middle of COVID. And so once we moved and I started finally getting well and going on that journey, I thought that this kind of hole that I felt in my gut, know, this feeling of like, I don't even know who I am anymore. My identity has become this sick girl. I've lost so much time because I've been in survival mode.

literally trying to survive and not being the mom that I pictured I would be whenever I first found out I was gonna be a mom, not being the wife that I thought I was gonna be when I first got married, not being the friend, know, not being anybody that I had pictured. I thought that was gonna go away once I got well, but what I discovered is once I got well, I still was living in this survival mode and I didn't have any infrastructure, any skillset to be the mom, the intentional mom I wanted to be, to be...

the great supportive wife and friend to be the woman that could still go after her own goals and dreams. I didn't even have goals and dreams anymore. They had been pushed to the side. I felt truly buried under the responsibilities of life. Like I couldn't keep up. Like I had lost touch with myself and it was a really rough spot. So that started for me this pursuit of how do I get back to myself because even my old self is not who I am now as a mom of three, a decade later.

having gone through so many things that were unexpected in my life. And so I began really digging into first how to even get my feet back on the ground as far as setting up systems and structure in my home, because at that point I had zero time. I was the hot mess mom, like hot mess express, dropping the ball everywhere. And so I really had to set up kind of from ground one, how to become a mom, how to be an intentional mom, setting up the infrastructure within my house to have systems that automated.

things for me where I wasn't running on empty anymore. I started getting my time back and then I started looking into now that I have some time, how do I use that to align with who I am and what I value and what I want out of life? And through that journey, it led me to recognize that I'm not the elderly mom that goes through this, that this kind of loss of feeling like you know yourself or that you're...

still investing yourself, that is kind of a common theme in motherhood. And so that's really what led me to start Mom Intentional, the podcast that I have now and the coaching business that I have now. And ⁓ I really just wanna help other moms who have struggled, maybe not even with chronic illness, but whatever it is, just the trauma of becoming a mom sometimes or a divorce or a loss, or it's just harder than we thought. ⁓ I wanna help those moms to get their feet on the ground and start to thrive again.

Elyse Scheeler (04:53)
I love that. And I think for our listeners, know, this is a very common theme in that like, I don't have time to worry about myself or my own mental health because my child has autism or my child has severe food allergies that I have to worry about every single minute of every single day or my child has other, you know, another medical diagnosis. But I think, you know, what I'm hearing from you, and I know that I've heard from other moms and even for myself too, is it's like, when we get buried in that, and we're so

focused on that, all of those other needs, whether they're physical or mental health, you know, or spiritual needs, they kind of get put to the wayside and they do get buried and like, it's not there's there's no watering, there's no sun on those seeds, right? Like, we need we need to they need to be uncovered. ⁓ And I know we had met one time before.

Okay, so what was I saying? Is, you know, as moms, it's so important for us to not let those things get buried, right? And I know I had the opportunity to do some coaching with you as well. And just like some of the things that you're saying even just now, just simple systems. You know, for me, one of the things that we had talked about was just putting the time is going to take me next to the things on my to-do list has been incredibly helpful, right? And now when I

Aubree Felderhoff (05:43)
you

Elyse Scheeler (06:10)
go, okay, I have 10 minutes, what can I do? I look at my to-do list because that's how I have it organized. And it's, you know, that's, it's just amazing, you know, how some of those small things can really help. So talk to us a little bit about, maybe a little bit about how you managed to figure all this out because you have three boys. From what I understand, you know, a couple of those kiddos do have some additional needs. So how were you able to go from, you know, buried to now being able to support and help others?

Aubree Felderhoff (06:37)
Yeah, I was really buried for a very long time. Because along with my own, you know, severe chronic illness, my kiddos do have some additional challenges and we went through the gamut on food allergies, severe food allergies. I mean, my middle son, he was born in the same time that I was sick. So right when my chronic illness was starting, he was born and he was born with

severe food allergies and just a lot of issues he screamed for the first two years of his life, which talk about being hard on your, you know, brain and mindset and just your adrenal system. I was really, that was a real struggle for me along with coming down with my illness.

It's really hard as a mom to have kiddos that are struggling with food allergies and we have ADHD and dyslexia in my family and having to support them through all of that, especially if you're struggling too. So yeah, I understand all of that and have lived it and I'm still living it. And my, I guess turnaround really came out of pure necessity. Like I had really hit rock bottom and I was...

pretty much embarrassed about how I wasn't a bad mom, but just in my mind, how bad of a mom I had become as far as keeping up with what my kids need. I mean, I was the only mom that my kids would show up to the book character parade without their books and without their costumes on and were 15 minutes late and the parade's going and I'm trying to stuff their foot into the dinosaur costume to get them out there and then they're crying because they don't have their book. And it was just a constant cycle for me of not keeping up.

and then looking around and going, why in the world can I not keep up when these other moms can do it, which is not healthy, but it's frustrating. And it's very defeating. And so that really, that final year of me just constantly dropping the ball and feeling as if I was disappointing my kids, feeling as if I was disappointing my husband when he was coming home and the house was a wreck and there wasn't food and I had forgotten, I was supposed to call the bank and do something, I was just dropping the ball everywhere. So that's where I started. realized,

I don't have the skillset. I never was taught to be a mom. I don't think many of us are, but I definitely wasn't. And then I missed out on the foundational pieces because I was busy distracted trying to find my way out of illness. And so I had to start at ground one, which was I need a system, a home management system that works for me, that simplifies everything, that is basically my personal assistant to help me put my ideas and my plans and streamline my home and all of the...

task of daily life, the grocery shopping, the laundry, the birthday party invitations that you have to return, the Christmas presents, all those things, the bills, all of those things I didn't have a system for and I was dropping the ball. And so that's where I started is at ground one of how can I begin to manage my home and those reoccurring tasks, those things that are happening.

No matter what as long as you're alive, they're gonna happen, right? You're gonna have to eat which means you're gonna need to purchase food and you're gonna need to meal plan You're gonna need to wear underwear. So you're gonna have to do laundry every week It shouldn't be a shock but for me it was because I had never sat down and set up systems for all of that on When am I gonna clean my underwear? When am I gonna do my laundry? When am I gonna meal plan? And so every week it would hit me. my gosh. I haven't grocery shopped We're out of milk. I gotta do this and I

So that's where I started is, okay, I'm gonna write down every single thing. It takes a few days if you've never done this, it takes a few days to observe, but you'll start to get a list going and observe quickly. What is something that I don't have a system for that is happening every week or every two weeks or every month? The same things are gonna start showing up. And those are the ones that you look at and say, what system can I set up to make this easier or more automated or to take that decision fatigue out?

and that extra time out to where it's running in the background for me. It's doing the heavy lifting for me so that I can then move on to things that are not automated, but that are more important to me. I wanted to go take my kids to the park because I had free time and be present with them and not with my calendar trying to map out the next week and a half of how I'm gonna get everything done. I wanted to be able to push them on the swings or go for a walk. I wasn't able, even when I was doing the quote unquote fun stuff, I wasn't able to be present because I didn't have those systems. So that...

is always my first recommendation is look around at kind of an audit, look at your life and say, where do I need the most help now? And we'll start there.

Elyse Scheeler (11:03)
Yeah, I love that. How do you like, is this something that can be, I'm assuming that it can, but maybe you could give us a little more insight on, I'm thinking about, you know, those mamas who are like, okay, this all sounds great, but like, I have three different doctors appointments, and we're in and out of the hospital because of X, Y, Z. Are there any things that maybe you could give that would be like a couple simple takeaways for those moms who are really living in that like, fight or flight?

level of unknown more specifically with those like high needs, special needs kiddos right now. And maybe there's not. I'm just, you know, thinking if there's some, just a couple little like small things that you could help, you could give to those moms specifically.

Aubree Felderhoff (11:49)
Yeah, that's so hard. I did that for many years with myself too, with all of the different specialists and doctors, but also with my kiddos. One thing that I found really helpful when we were in the midst of trying to get diagnoses for my kiddos and we had a lot of different support therapy appointments that we were going to for, especially for my son who had sensory integration disorder, I set up a kind of on the go type task management system. So I got a bag.

Elyse Scheeler (11:54)
Mm-hmm.

Aubree Felderhoff (12:16)
like a shoulder bag that I could carry and I put folders in it, you the type that have, that you can stick in a binder, I'm blanking on the name, but they have a little area that has a pocket in it that you can stick in a binder. I would get those and any paperwork, let's say, anything that I need to get done that week that's paperwork or that I could do with writing or with scheduling on my phone, I would stick it in that little tiny folder.

Elyse Scheeler (12:26)
Mm-hmm.

Aubree Felderhoff (12:42)
Bring it with me. It just went with me was like my to-do list to go and it went with me to all the doctors appointments and all of the different things with my kiddos and When we were in the waiting room and I had my kiddos and I you know, I get there's not always time But or there's not always calm to do it But when there was because there's always gonna be pockets of time right like what we had talked about a ten minute You know little section here at 20 minute here and you never know what to do You're not prepared because you haven't planned ahead to say

what am I gonna do when that 20 minute pocket of time comes up? It's hard to come up with that on the fly. But if you have that stuff, if you set aside a time at the beginning of the week to look through everything, put it in your travel to go, and then take it with you, you can just start knocking that stuff out. And that really helps me with car line and appointments and even moms who are at practices or piano lessons or wherever you are, doctor's appointments where you're not talking to the doctor, you can get a lot done if you have it prepared and planned ahead.

Elyse Scheeler (13:37)
I love that. So as you've gone through, you know, all of these things, how has your relationship with God changed? Or, you know, have you become more spiritual? Or have you been able to like, I know for me, with some of my things, you know, I can look back and I can be like, ⁓ God was there, you know, I didn't feel it, but God was there. How has that changed for you throughout this journey?

Aubree Felderhoff (13:57)
my gosh.

It's a huge story that would be a whole podcast on its own, but I'll shorten it for you. I did not grow up a Christian. And so when I first got married, I knew that I wanted to become a church member and go to church because I wanted my kids to know God, but I really didn't know him. I knew who he was, but I didn't have a relationship. I had never read the Bible. And so I started...

Really, once I got married, I started trying to go to church with my husband, trying out different churches, trying to get to know this God character, not really understanding him because I wasn't discipled at the time. And then I got sick and my understanding of God, it was a bit transactional, right? So I kind of thought, I must have not been a good enough Christian or I must have not gotten how this God thing works. Like I'm doing something wrong, he's punishing me.

Especially when I didn't get well and I got sicker and sicker I got to the point where I couldn't drive anymore. I was having seizures and blackouts I lost most of my hair. I lost most of my vision. I lost my eyesight I was in and out of emergency room and clinics. I mean it was really really bad I was having brain scans. My heart had become enlarged. It wasn't like a little thing And so my thought the whole time was I'm just not good enough. Like I'm not doing enough I'm not praying enough. I must not be I must be too selfish, you know, I'm asking for the wrong things. It was always a very

transactional type thought is what I thought God was. eventually got to the point, it eventually started affecting my mental health and I became incredibly depressed, beyond depressed and hopeless and helpless, right? Which is kind of what depression is. And once I wasn't able to take care of my kids anymore and I couldn't take care of myself, I lost my ability to drive and I had to have someone come take me everywhere. I finally just prayed to God and asked him to either fix me,

or take me, like I felt like I had drained us of our finances. I was a burden. I was having to have a babysitter come help me to get up and go to the bathroom. I mean, it was awful. And so I really just prayed like a prayer of like, I surrender, I am done with this. Take me or fix me, but I can't do this anymore. And it was literally the next day that God truly performed a miracle in my life. I mean, there's no other way to describe it, but my husband, he owns a business and had just hired someone completely random. We did not know him.

and was explaining to that man, he was training him, but telling him I have to leave because I have to go pick up my wife because I was seeing a cardiologist at the time because I had heart problems that had come on from this. And so the man who did not know my husband was brave enough to ask him why me in my, was young 30s at the time, why a seemingly healthy person in her 30s was seeing a cardiologist. So my husband started explaining and the man said, sounds like my sister-in-law out in Illinois, which is a.

totally random place, we were in Texas, and to have me call her. And so I did, and she matched everything. I had over 100 symptoms at the time. She matched my story. She had a specialist that she saw on Colorado. So I called them, I went out and got testing. It took three days and I got diagnosed pretty quickly after that. And then my healing started. And so it really was a miracle. And it was only after I told God, I'm done like.

quote unquote doing and being a good Christian, I'm done and I give it to you. Like because of my whole life, I have tried to control everything. I hate to admit that and it sounds bad, but if I'm being brutally honest, which I'm a pretty brutally honest person, I like to be in control. I wanna do it myself. I'm an independent woman. I'm strong. That's kind of how I've always had the identity. This illness stripped it all away from me. I was not in control. I was not strong. I was no longer an athlete. I was no longer a go getter. I had no goals or dreams.

Elyse Scheeler (17:12)
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Aubree Felderhoff (17:31)
I had people taking care of me and my children. So I had no quote unquote job anymore. It was horrendous. And I finally let go of it all of trying to get through the worst thing of my life. God took it and healed me. And so that, I know that's a really long story. It could have been a lot longer, but that is to say that that is when I really understood who God was. After that night, I understood that I had it all wrong. And I really grew from that, obviously. I mean, he healed me, but.

Elyse Scheeler (17:47)
Yeah

Aubree Felderhoff (17:58)
I also begin to understand that my understanding of God and my relationship of Him was not the God up in the sky that I now know. And so it really lit a fire in me to understand and to read the Bible and to dig into the gospel message and to understand who I am in His eyes. And He still challenges me daily on letting go of things. So I can't say that I'm much better, but I now understand that.

my identity is in Christ and being his child and it is not in being good enough for him, which was a hard thing for me to break. So it has massively changed. We'll put it like that, it's massively changed since all of this started.

Elyse Scheeler (18:39)
Yeah, I love that and I think that that's, you many people have a similar story and I think for me, I specifically remember being in the bathroom, crying on the floor when we were in the midst of infertility and it was the same thing. was like, I'm doing all of the things and you know what, same thing, I'm healthy, I'm doing all these, I don't understand, like, I'm just giving it up to you. I'm just gonna give it up to you because I can't do anything else.

and that was what, I mean things did not, I wasn't quite as miraculous, but things started making a change and I think my husband says too that it was around that same time where he felt that same thing where it was just like we just, we have to let it go and give it up to God. Like we literally have, like physically there has to be some sort of like thinking about whatever it is in your heart and seeing it go up to him and giving it up to him and knowing that you are not in control of this and I have you know two beautiful children and I'm very blessed after those many years but I think

you know, that your story is just absolutely amazing. And I think sometimes it's like, God is like, he's just waiting. He's like, I can help you, I can help you, but you have to, you know, we think we need to hold on to this rope that's tied, you know, on the bank of the river when really we just have to let it go and let it flow, right?

Aubree Felderhoff (19:52)
Yes.

Elyse Scheeler (19:53)
you know, kind

of a thing and amazingly, you know, he's trying to get us to let go and then amazing things can happen. So I love that and I absolutely love your story. Can you walk us through, because I know, you I have been very gracious to be the recipient of some coaching from you, but you know, for these moms that are feeling like this, I know you use your spark method. Can you just tell us a little bit about that to maybe give them some takeaways today or maybe if they might be interested in getting some coaching from you in the future?

Aubree Felderhoff (20:19)
Yeah, sure. So I started the spark method just based on what I had gone through, you know, with feeling as if I had lost my spark and lost my identity. And so it's a five step spark, five step process to help moms just kind of find themselves again, find that thing that lights them up and to feel more confident, to feel more grounded, to feel healthier, to feel taken care of and to feel like them again, because I certainly, I lost myself completely in motherhood. So

Just to do a real quick recap of it, S is you set your foundation. So it's looking at what is important to you, what your core values are. know, the things that strip away all of the titles and the house and the belongings. And what is it that if I told you you had a day left to live, what would you spend your time doing? You know, those are the core values.

And then we prioritize your needs. So we spend a little bit of time looking at what do you need to feel whole? It's most likely gonna be some form of movement, nourishing food, some sort of soul care, whether it's quiet time or walking outside or meditation, those sort of things. So like actual basic needs for your human body and human soul. And then we move into assembling systems for you and your life. So where are you lacking?

Kind of like what I went through when I realized, my gosh, I am a complete mess of a mom. Like I have no system. So setting up the infrastructure to automate what we can in your life and in your home organization, in your planning, maybe you're struggling on planning. I was kind of, I kind of checked all the boxes. I was struggling at all. So we look at all of the systems and then we move into reviving your relationships. So helping you to be a more patient mom, helping you to be a more intentional.

Mom, helping you to be a better communicator and more loving spouse, loving your husband in the way that he needs to love. We look at all of that. And then friendship, looking at who's your tribe? Who is your community? Who do you have holding you up in the trenches when you need that help? Who can you call on? And if you don't have that, which it's sadly not shocking how many of us are missing that. I know I was, especially when you are...

A mom of a child that has special needs sometimes or you like myself are chronically ill or have certain needs it can be a little isolating and you're so busy that you're not able to make all those play dates or the other things and On top of that if your kid is quote-unquote different, which which kid isn't different, right? We're all different. But if your kid doesn't fit with the typical group

then sometimes that can make us even more isolated. so helping you to work on building those tribes and those support systems in that community is so important. And then the final step is knowing your spark. So what lights you up? What do you want to grow in? Maybe it's a job or a hobby. What makes you happy? know, kind of putting all of the pieces together now that you have your foundation and your time and your systems and your support, like...

What do you wanna do with it? What do you wanna do with this extra energy and time? Because we don't just, there's a reason that we want that extra energy, that extra time, that space for ourselves. So what is it that we're gonna do? It's helping you discover what sparks you and moving you forward from there.

Elyse Scheeler (23:32)
I think this is, know, I come back to this often, but the realization of no matter your child's, you know, age or cognitive level, they are watching you. And when they see you have a spark or they notice that difference, that mom is excited and engaged, that is going to impact them as well. And I think that as moms, just like you said, we get so caught up in motherhood, whether it's

you know, our own challenges or, you know, just, I just have to make sure that everybody stays alive, right? And like, we have to get to the next thing and I have to do the right thing and I don't know what the right thing is, but I'm going to figure it out. It's so important to be able to do that. And our children are watching us. And when you have that spark, you are going to enable them to have that spark and to be able to move forward in whatever, you know, whatever challenges they're facing. Cause especially, you know, those kiddos with...

Okay, honey, can you give me two more almost done? All right. I mean this is gonna be a really creative editing today I'm gonna we're gonna get it. It's gonna be good

Aubree Felderhoff (24:30)
Do you know you can push mark, right?

Do you know you can push the key and it will mark it?

Elyse Scheeler (24:34)
Well,

oh no, I didn't, but I can do that. I usually go like to find the fluff and then it'll find the areas for me. Okay, and I was on a roll. Here we go. But I think it's just so important for us as moms to remember, and I love the word that you used, that spark, and finding your spark and having that is going to give you the energy to keep going. If you don't have your spark, if you don't have your tribe, all of those things that you talked about, you are going to be exhausted.

Aubree Felderhoff (24:41)
That's good idea too.

You were.

Elyse Scheeler (25:04)
many special needs moms, like you are in it for the long haul. This is not something, you know, that is going to be, well, we did our therapy for a year and it's done. Like a lot of these kiddos are going to need support for a very long time, you know, possibly into adulthood. So remembering that and knowing that it is possible to support and love and bless your child and show them, you know, the love of Jesus while also having that spark and keeping that

literal, you know, the fire alive within you I think is just so, so important. I am really excited to be able to continue doing some coaching with you as well just because I think all moms benefit from that and I think for me, you know, what we've done so far is really those systems and I think that that's such a great first step for so many people is, you know, and maybe this isn't, you know, what you need to hear today but having your to-do list and figuring out how long it's going to take, that is such an actionable step.

that I learned and if there's nothing that you take from, you our listeners take from that today, if you're feeling overwhelmed with your to-do list, just look at your to-do list and figure out, ⁓ how long are each of these things going to take me? And then when you have, like you said, you have that little bit of time trying to fit that in. I think that that's like a very reasonable step. And then once you kind of start with a teeny tiny system like that, you go, hmm, maybe I can do some other systems and maybe I need to call Aubrey and set up a time so that she can help me create some other ones because...

it's just that little bit of support and guidance and then once the snowball starts being made it starts rolling down the hill and there is that light that spark at the end of the tunnel that you can find peace within, you know, these challenging times. just, sorry, I digress. I got a little distracted by a kiddo here and just kept talking.

But as we wrap up here, can you let our listeners know where they can find you? I know on Mom Intentional Podcasts, but anywhere else on the socials that they can find you.

Aubree Felderhoff (26:50)
Isn't that right?

Yeah, yeah, so my podcast is mom intentional I have a website where you can find the find your spark coaching program and it's called Www.momintentional.com so pretty easy and I have a free facebook group It's all linked on the website and then I am on instagram, although i'm not super active I try to be intentional about not being on social media a lot, but I am on there at mom intentional as well

Elyse Scheeler (27:25)
Well, thank you so much for your time.

Aubree Felderhoff (27:27)
Yes, thank you. At least it was fun.

Elyse Scheeler (27:29)
I don't know what I'm doing. There we go.